If You agree you might be…..

Posted: January 20, 2011 by doulos tou Theou in Christianity, Reformed Theology

At the bottom is a “nick name” for what you might be if this is what you believe:

 

 

I believe I am so spiritually corrupt and prideful and rebellious that I would never have come to faith in Jesus without God’s merciful, sovereign victory over the last vestiges of my rebellion. (1 Corinthians 2:14Ephesians 3:1–4Romans 8:7).

I believe that God chose me to be his child before the foundation of the world, on the basis of nothing in me, foreknown or otherwise. (Ephesians 1:4–6Acts 13:48;Romans 8:29–3011:5–7)

I believe Christ died as a substitute for sinners to provide a bona fide offer of salvation to all people, and that he had an invincible design in his death to obtain his chosen bride, namely, the assembly of all believers, whose names were eternally written in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain. (John 3:16John 10:15Ephesians 5:25;Revelation 13:8)

When I was dead in my trespasses, and blind to the beauty of Christ, God made me alive, opened the eyes of my heart, granted me to believe, and united me to Jesus, with all the benefits of forgiveness and justification and eternal life. (Ephesians 2:4–52 Corinthians 4:6Philippians 2:29Ephesians 2:8–9Acts 16:14Ephesians 1:7;Philippians 3:9)

I am eternally secure not mainly because of anything I did in the past, but decisively because God is faithful to complete the work he began—to sustain my faith, and to keep me from apostasy, and to hold me back from sin that leads to death. (1 Corinthians 1:8–91 Thessalonians 5:23–24Philippians 1:61 Peter 1:5Jude 1:25;John 10:28–291 John 5:16)

 

(HT:DesiringGodBlog)

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Comments
  1. i AGREE, BUT I PREFER THE TERM SOVEREIGN GRACE.

  2. John W. says:

    If you agree you might be . . .

    I believe everyone is so spiritually corrupt and prideful and rebellious that no one would ever come to faith in Jesus without God’s merciful, prevenient grace which has enabled all people to respond to his convicting influence. (John 12:32; 16:8)

    I believe that God chose me to be his child before the foundation of the world, on the basis of and according to his foreknowledge of my faithful response to the gospel. (Jeremiah 1:15, 1 Peter 1:1-2, Romans 8:29)

    I believe Christ died as a substitute for all sinners to provide a bona fide offer of salvation to all people, and that he had an invincible design in his death to obtain his chosen bride, namely, the assembly of all those who believe in him whose names thereby were eternally written in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain. (John 3:16, 1 John. 2:2; 2 Corinthians 5:19; 1 Timothy 4:10; Hebrews 2:9).

    I believe, when we were dead in our trespasses, and blind to the beauty of Christ, God made us alive, opened the eyes of our hearts, granted us the opportunity to believe, and, upon our assent, be united to Jesus, with all the benefits of forgiveness and justification and eternal life. (John 12:32; 1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Peter 2:9; Matthew 23:37; Luke 7:30)

    I believe that I am secure in my salvation so long as I retain my faithful response to the gospel. (Ezekiel 18:24, Matthew 26:14-16; Hebrews 4:6, 1 John 1:24)

  3. doulos tou Theou says:

    @ John W
    Thank you for your time in responding.

    you said,

    “I believe that I am secure in my salvation so long as I retain my faithful response to the gospel”

    sounds like God is depending on you to do a lot.

    You cited Heb 4 there which is interesting since the writer is talking about entering God’s rest, yet your statement seems like there is no rest since there is exertion to “retain” your response.

    Romans 9-11 seems to be saying to quote a friend, “nothing you fail to do disqualifies you. Nothing you do qualifies you. It’s the sovereign choice of grace by God that does everything.” rom 9:16

    I’m with you on a lot of what you say. I would like to ask you two questions and get you to ponder some scripture.

    Is election because of a foreknown faith or Does faith happen because of election? (Acts 13:48)

    &

    Do you belong to God because you come to Jesus or Do you come to Jesus because you belong to God ? (John 10:24-27, John 6:37-39, John 17:6-9)

  4. John W. says:

    DTT –

    The purpose of setting forth the five points of Arminianism not so much to argue for their adoption since it tends to lead to dispair when we fall into sin or no longer experience the strange warm feeling of divine grace, rather it was to illustrate that scripture can be used to prove both sides of an argument. For example, there is probably more scriptural support for an Arian understanding of the subordination of the Son to the Father than to the catholic position of consubstantiation expressed in the Creed (e.g. Mt. 22:443-44; Mk 13:32; John 14:28; 1Cor. 8:5-6). Arius, Pelagius, and Zwingli were all 100% Biblically certified, but it doesn’t mean that they were right because they did not hold fast to the faith once delivered.

    I also simply have a visceral protestant reaction against the supposed infallibility of Calvinism. We believe the historical visible churches have erred at times, that council’s have erred at times, and the pope has erred at times (Art. 19 and 21), yet John Calvin and his disciples are beyond reproach. Calvin attempts to explain that which is ineffable, and his mistake is to reduce the complex and diverse operations of God in salvation to a single set formula of Divine Sovereignty and ends up with a strict double predestination which denies free will and reduces salvation to the whims of the Deity.

    As to the substance of you comments and specifically the final questions, I simply do not know for certain. For mysteries of faith such as election and salvation are often in paradoxes which simply cannot be explained with certainty. Even the Apostle himself merely saw in the mirror dimly. For every Pharaoh whose heart God hardens, there is a Zacchaeus who of his own volition climbs to see Him. I think the issue is simply “Did God so love the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believes in him will have eternal life?”, OR “Did God so the love the elect that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever has eternal life will believe in him?”

  5. doulos tou Theou says:

    @ John W

    ok John I can understand your position.

    As to the last paragraph I would put forth from the Saviors lips
    “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him”

    and this statement which precedes

    Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
    “Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.

    why are they called dead?

    maybe it’s because

    And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

    Thanks for the discussion

    If you’d rather carry this on through email let me know.

  6. John W. says:

    Initially, the post was intended to poke our senior pastor, and to let off some steam related to the “infallibility” of a 16th c. French lawyer/priest. I appreciate your pastorial and thoughtful response and hopefully we will be able to continue the conversation further in a different forum.

    John Wesley (a/k/a Charlie Jordan)

  7. doulos tou Theou says:

    Now the very thoughtful intelligent responses make sense.
    🙂

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